tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8156972773801079896.post6184846330595471023..comments2023-10-23T14:20:52.192-07:00Comments on My10MinuteBlog: Brexit Briefing - Technical RegulationsPaul Reynoldshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04991999984214758071noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8156972773801079896.post-20977177566806890862021-01-16T05:01:18.803-08:002021-01-16T05:01:18.803-08:00This type of message always inspiring and I prefer...This type of message always inspiring and I prefer to read quality content, so happy to find good place to many here in the post, the writing is just great, thanks for the post. <a href="https://list.ly/list/4uqn-dont-overpay-for-website-design-and-social-media?make_list_mode=true" rel="nofollow">lära sig teknisk analys</a><br />seohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16260462258003393730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8156972773801079896.post-69357383383984901762018-05-24T11:22:30.064-07:002018-05-24T11:22:30.064-07:00Possibly, although I wouldn't bet against the ...Possibly, although I wouldn't bet against the EU Commission being reluctant to let UK stay in CEN/CENELEC on the basis that we have rejected the Single Market. CEN/CENELEC membership of course would require UK to continue to adopt CEN/CENELEC standards as national standards, although outside the Single Market (or short of a swiss style agreement) we'd still be free to recognise other international standards - which is why the EU Commission probably would reject UK membership of CEN/CENELEC - in their view it would compromise the integrity and legal order of the single market.Paul Reynoldshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04991999984214758071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8156972773801079896.post-50686163758916357672018-05-24T11:20:49.451-07:002018-05-24T11:20:49.451-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Paul Reynoldshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04991999984214758071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8156972773801079896.post-67225423009811727232018-05-24T11:16:19.460-07:002018-05-24T11:16:19.460-07:00Agreed. Car headlamps is the classic example of di...Agreed. Car headlamps is the classic example of divergent regulations - as is the USA car approval system versus EU/UNECE. But even in car industry, there is more commonality or equivalence between US & EU/UNECE regulations for components than is commonly supposed (see https://share.ansi.org/Shared%20Documents/Standards%20Activities/International%20Standardization/Standards%20Alliance/ANDEAN_Mexican%20Delegation%20Visit/Powerpoints/Day%203/Presentation_Automotive_Regulations_and-Certification_Processes.pptx) <br /><br />I think you are right that often times, products can have one designed & manufacturing process to meet several standards - but it means different assessments for different markets. As per the US Trade report, the EU is particularly reluctant to recognise other international standards or assessments as equivalent or meeting essential objectives, raising high bureacratic barriers. Outside the single market, the UK has the opportunity to be more liberal in that regard.Paul Reynoldshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04991999984214758071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8156972773801079896.post-90661312098955544462018-05-11T03:39:49.485-07:002018-05-11T03:39:49.485-07:00My impression is that CEN and CENELEC will bend ov...My impression is that CEN and CENELEC will bend over backwards to keep BSI in because we do so much of the work, chairing a great many of the technical committees etc. I was also told that from a very practical point of view, we are much needed for drafting in good English. Andrew Andrew Chapmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11682602818338988947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8156972773801079896.post-34758769014532033752018-05-11T03:35:36.516-07:002018-05-11T03:35:36.516-07:00Sometimes differences in technical regulations mak...Sometimes differences in technical regulations make it impossible for a product to meet both at once - I believe this is true of EU and US car headlights for example. And UK and continental EU push bikes - their right brake goes to the rear wheel.<br /><br />But more often I think, you can design a product to meet more than one set of technical regulations at once. Maybe it will involve the same test or tests but to different criteria; or maybe there will be different tests. But either way, a manufacturer can normally get all its certification for a product done by a single testing and certification company (eg http://www.intertek.com/hvac/safety/electrical-testing/).<br /><br />Somebody who made medical devices in Oxford told me they designed to American standards, which were higher than European - and then they would automatically meet European standards too (would still need European certification of course).<br /><br />AndrewAndrew Chapmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11682602818338988947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8156972773801079896.post-16995059156931936622017-11-10T19:04:32.940-08:002017-11-10T19:04:32.940-08:00I used to highlight links until another former mem...I used to highlight links until another former member of team flexcit suggested it made the page look busy. Perhaps I should take a vote ?<br /><br />UNECE: I don't understand your comment "You will not see any change and obviously realise why there has been no change". Everything I see suggests power is flowing the other way. I cannot see why anyone would reasonably believe UNECE is ever going to take over the EU's Single Market. Regarding the topic of this post, is UNECE going to subsume or replace CENELEC? Of course not.<br /><br />It seems folly and fantasy to me to base a Brexit strategy on accepting EU regulations, because of a blind optimism that at some stage UNECE will take over from EU legislation. There is simply no evidence to suggest it is happening or will ever happen - in fact the opposite seems likely.<br /><br />UK will of course retain its place in UNECE post-Brexit. Whatever capacity UNECE provides to influence or shape regulations will be available to UK - regardless of whether we take the EEA option.Paul Reynoldshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04991999984214758071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8156972773801079896.post-64825451973266767222017-11-10T08:36:21.447-08:002017-11-10T08:36:21.447-08:00Thanks your response. Could not any links be '...Thanks your response. Could not any links be 'highlighted as it is time consuming to follow text with the cursor when reading an article - just a suggestion. <br /><br />Re UNECE: You will not see any change and obviously realise why there has been no change, but is that a reason to dismiss the idea, something you appear to be doing? Again, just asking.<br /><br />scribblingsfromseaham.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10429894879831778606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8156972773801079896.post-25236151651851792182017-11-09T11:25:45.414-08:002017-11-09T11:25:45.414-08:00There are hyperlinks in the article to source refe...There are hyperlinks in the article to source references for figures etc. For example click on the text "EU's 2016 standards bodies report" in the post and you will be directed to the report.<br /><br />I'm aware of the arguments from the North camp for UNECE but I see absolutely no evidence that it is happening (I've covered before how UNECE WP.29 represent EU colonising UNECE, not the reverse, and will cover again soon in another post). It is also clearly not in the EU's DNA to sacrifice legislative power. The acquis is how it extends the empire.<br /><br />RE Innovation, the EU's regulations are very much anti-innovation and based on the precautionary principle - probably a central reason why the EU lags the rest of the world in innovation. Allowing varied regulatory approaches to achieving the essential regulatory objectives promotes innovation. This is in fact another bone of contention the US has with the EU's regulatory system (and it is undoubtedly true that the US leads the EU by a country mile in innovation).Paul Reynoldshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04991999984214758071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8156972773801079896.post-89850737124273408712017-11-09T10:58:19.595-08:002017-11-09T10:58:19.595-08:00An interesting article - any chance of links to th...An interesting article - any chance of links to the facts and other articles you state?<br /><br />As someone 'from the North'- to coin a a phrase - is there not an argument for the setting up of UNECE as the 'standard-setting' body for Europe; would such a body not have more clout on the international stage, thus possibly negating the chance that other 'standards' are needed?<br /><br />That last question does not mean that innovation would be stifled because it is through innovation that standards are 'honed' and thus improved, is it not?<br /><br />Just a request/comment/question..............<br />scribblingsfromseaham.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10429894879831778606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8156972773801079896.post-33315209960766715122017-11-07T11:12:49.717-08:002017-11-07T11:12:49.717-08:00EU "importer" need not be expensive, obl...EU "importer" need not be expensive, obligations are limited. There will already be operators inside EU who offer this service to businesses from 3rd countries who export to EU. There is an opportunity for someone (Govt / trade body / private sector) to set up an office in EU and offer service to SME's who want to export to EU.<br /><br />Where costs may be higher is for sectors requiring registrations to be held in EU, e.g. REACH requires Chemical products to be registered with an "only representative". Transferring existing UK based registrations (~6,000) to EU-based only representative will cost €1600 per registration, but it is a one-off cost and EU chemical companies will face same issue for exporting to UK, assuming we replicate REACH in UK legislation.<br /><br />I wondered about EFTA associate membership and standards bodies (and lots of other European agreements, e.g. EASA, Common Transit Convention etc). I suspect it's a grey area and will depend on how the EU chooses to interpret matters. If it did do the trick, EFTA associate membership would be very useful for access to European institutions and as as a framework for EFTA-UK trade.Paul Reynoldshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04991999984214758071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8156972773801079896.post-87927606345227024092017-11-07T10:25:34.008-08:002017-11-07T10:25:34.008-08:00Paul this is another very good briefing.
On the t...Paul this is another very good briefing.<br /><br />On the topic of using an EU importer and getting a CE mark I have heard suggestions of late that these processes will be expensive/onerous for smaller firms. What is your take on this?<br /><br />On EFTA membership - I personally have no problem with us applying for this, with the obvious rider that it is not a lead up to EEA. Would the recently proposed associate EFTA status also do the trick in terms of maintaining membership of the standards bodies?Potwalloperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17441000187089728787noreply@blogger.com